Pioneer 80prs competitors: are there any at this time(feb 2013 ...

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? DIYMA freshman Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: cali Posts: 6	Are there any modern head units(2 years or newer, or coming down the pipe) that can compete with the pioneer 80prs in terms of features? -full active capabilities -preout voltage -price -usb outlets/bluetooth/ipod, etc if not head units, what components can offer the aforementioned features after the head unit? I single out this head unit, because there doesn't seem to be anything in the market that can match this unit in terms of price, features, and performance. edit: I understand full active is 3-way, and know that pioneer also has a head unit that does 4 way, the p99rs. are there other head units that can provide the same if not better/more features than the p99rs? same question for components after the head unit(processor?) that can provide the same or more/better features? I take it, a head unit with these features, will have at least (3)4v preouts, correct? for the sake of this thread, let's assume so AND price no factor.
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? DIYMA freshman Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: outside chigago Age: 24 Posts: 66	Just because there are far more cheap HU options out there with little to no features or style doesn't mean that manufacturers have abandoned those of us that want a nice HU with a strong feature set but can't afford to lay down $700+ on a HU alone. JVC and Kenwood and Clarion are taking aim at the 80prs with the models listed below. As ZAKOH mentioned earlier Clarion has the CZ702 JVC Arsenal: KD-A95BT Kenwood eXelon: KDC-X996 So I would say there is still a bit of competition in this bracket, maybe not as much as some would like but it's still a lot more than nothing.
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? DSOTM Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: LFT Age: 40 Posts: 3,311	Quote: Alpine has a new deck, something -149 with tuning from a smart phone. It has nine band parametric eq, t/a, and x-overs. I have been trying to figure out if it is 2 way or 3 way. The information releaed on Alpines US web site wasn't very helpful in this regard. If it is truly 3 way (like my 9828/33 from years ago), then it would definitely be a challenger to the pioneer and the clarion. Unless something has changed, it is only high pass with a sub section. In other words, there is no bandpass option to make it a viable option for active.
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1 Hour Ago	? #25
? DIYMA freshman Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: outside chigago Age: 24 Posts: 66	Quote: I would say not not. Active capable head unit is on a different level IMO. Kenwood and JVC are just another consumer head unit maker. The lack of active capability and gimmicky "sound enhancers" in in Kenwood show these companies do not want to address the needs of audiophiles. I think you're over looking the features you get from these HU's by throwing them in with all the other "consumer level" products. I mean your they have features that your average Joe would never even bat an eye at. Also from what I remember the JVC has adjustable independent HPF and LPS filters for the front and rear so why can't she run actives again? *Adjustable multi-band panoramic EQ - "where the button that make my sub go BOOM BOOM." *Time Align - "Why do I need to align the time?" *High pass and low pass filters - "Huh?" *6-channel pre-outs - "Why do I need all those when I just have one sub?" * Incremental Loudness Adjust - again Joe Blow only wants on or off. Yeah they may lack the Pio's left and right independent EQ's but from what I've seen and read a lot of owners never even use it. All so while running actives may be what you want to do but there are plenty of people that like quality sound that will run passive (like me). So having a HU that can run actives is not that important to one in my situation. I'm not denying that the 80prs as a great HU if you must have every last feature (which a lot of us don't) and can tolerate the looks, I'm just saying it does have some completion, may be not direct but it's got competition and as I said it's only gonna get stiffer now that they've thrown down the gauntlet.
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